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BBrad
 Jan 9, 07 - 5:18 PM |
eternal death
I must die two deaths (as must you). I must die a physical death and I must die to self (the dieing process is painful). The old Bradley will be destroyed for ever. The new Bradley will be like Christ and enjoy God's presence for eternity. "Like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be recovered, so we must die. But God does not take away life; instead, he devises ways so that a banished person may not remain estranged from him" (2 Sam 14:14). |
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Mike Burke
Jan 9th, 2007 - 7:47 PM |
Re: eternal death
"Like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be recovered, so we must die. But God does not take away life; instead, he devises ways so that a banished person may not remain estranged from him" (2 Sam 14:14). Amen. I just visited your web site, and found it very interesting (thanks for dropping in.) God Bless. |
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BBrad
Apr 28th, 2007 - 6:03 AM |
Re: eternal death
"Men would understand; they do not care to obey. They try to understand where it is impossible they could understand except by obeying.... Upon obedience must our energy be spent; understanding will follow." − George MacDonald (1824-1905) We must die to live. There is no escaping this death. Of course it is painful and it will continue to be painful while I am in the process of dying. The hellishness of hell is that people will come to see their sin as God sees it and therefore hate it. Those in hell will want to be in heaven, but wanting to get there is not enough in itself. Jesus is the only way in and anyone who wants to be with Him must pick up their cross and follow. Jesus tells us if we do not forgive we will not be forgiven. Do you want to be with Jesus? Follow Him by doing what He says. Perhaps you are thinking this is not good news. But it is. God will destroy the sin which destroys me. He will free me. He will make me like Christ, someone who shows perfect obedience to God the Father out of love. If I should find myself in hell at least it will be a good kind loving God who sent me there. A God whose love is eternal. A God whose wrath burns because of love. A love which hates sin. A love which loves the sinner. A love which always hopes and always perseveres. |
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Mike Burke
Apr 28th, 2007 - 2:53 PM |
Re: eternal death
Thank you Brad. Your comments are reminiscent of Andrew Jukes (in addition to George MacDonald, whom you quote.) Unfortunately, there are too many universalists preaching a kind of cheap grace (wrongly dividing the word of Truth, and making artificial distinctions between what Peter, James, and Paul had to say on the subject.) Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? (Paul, 2Cor. 13:5.) Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame. (Paul, 1Cor. 15:34.) ...add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ" (Peter, 2Peter 1:5-11.) But someone will say, "you have faith; I have deeds." show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. (James, James 2:18.) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. (Paul, Eph. 2:10.) The Wesleyan tradition speaks of "sanctification," and the Calvinist tradition speaks of "the perseverance of the saints," but some universalists have unwisely taken to preaching Sovereignty and Grace to the exclusion of the Biblical truth represented by these words (i.e. that God's Grace includes good works engendered by living faith.) God Bless. |
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